Cooling water, no rotation!?

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:40 pm

Ok, so iÂ´ve started disassembling it all again and NO oil in water....and no water in oil....that i can see...

One strange thing though...it was very little oil in the sump and a lot in the oiltank!? What you think of that??
And why did the water explode all over me twice but all look good!?

....will have to see the gasket on friday....took a day off work to fix camchain and gasket....

youngy · Post by **youngy** » Wed May 28, 2008 10:06 pm

did you check the oil telltale when you first started the motor up?

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Thu May 29, 2008 5:14 am

youngy wrote:did you check the oil telltale when you first started the motor up?

Yeah, it squirted out oil.....wouldnÂ´t dare not to!

HansJ · Post by **HansJ** » Thu May 29, 2008 6:45 am

Re: your comment on the Swedish site: Mystery?

Doesn't sound so mysterious to me... A blowm head gasket must not mean water in oil or vice versa. It depends where the damage is. Most likely the leak is between combustion chamber and a water channel. Pressure is going in to the coolant system, Pressure builds up and the coolant filler cap does what it's supposed to do, opening up. And for the oil in the sump, that's what makes it so hard to check the oil level, sometimes the oil stays where it's supposed to be (in the tank) and sometimes quite a lot trickles through down to the sump.

My bet is still a nice little leak in the gasket...

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:13 pm

HansJ wrote:Re: your comment on the Swedish site: Mystery?

Doesn't sound so mysterious to me... A blowm head gasket must not mean water in oil or vice versa. It depends where the damage is. Most likely the leak is between combustion chamber and a water channel. Pressure is going in to the coolant system, Pressure builds up and the coolant filler cap does what it's supposed to do, opening up. And for the oil in the sump, that's what makes it so hard to check the oil level, sometimes the oil stays where it's supposed to be (in the tank) and sometimes quite a lot trickles through down to the sump.

My bet is still a nice little leak in the gasket...

Cheers mate! One should learn a new thing every day and i think i just did....
That and that i shall not lay down on couch after dinner when had an early morning....just woke up!
Interesting night this will be..!

Just waiting on the copper "spray-a-gasket" and itÂ´s on....new camchain came today....will be interesting to compare!!

steve speed · Post by **steve speed** » Thu May 29, 2008 9:56 pm

let us know about your cam chain ,, how many miles on the motor ? i was thinking of changing mine but how do you tell if it needs doing ??

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:06 pm

steve speed wrote:let us know about your cam chain ,, how many miles on the motor ? i was thinking of changing mine but how do you tell if it needs doing ??

Well, bike has 35000km on it and the chain was streched so i missed the timing all the time....until HansJ told me one have to compensate! ....and as i had not made markings on where the timing where on the streched chain....i was fekked....

...also, i only had 3 clicks left in the tensioner....wich feels to close the way i ride the bike (like i stole it)

steve speed · Post by **steve speed** » Thu May 29, 2008 10:30 pm

cam chain tensioner i should have thought of that

i think i have beer sickness

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:01 pm

HansJ wrote:Re: your comment on the Swedish site: Mystery?

Doesn't sound so mysterious to me... A blowm head gasket must not mean water in oil or vice versa. It depends where the damage is. Most likely the leak is between combustion chamber and a water channel. Pressure is going in to the coolant system, Pressure builds up and the coolant filler cap does what it's supposed to do, opening up. And for the oil in the sump, that's what makes it so hard to check the oil level, sometimes the oil stays where it's supposed to be (in the tank) and sometimes quite a lot trickles through down to the sump.

My bet is still a nice little leak in the gasket...

Your right again, gasket has blew inside from comb. to one of the channels.
Has your KEDO held up?? A bit sceptical to drilling in them actually....if not gluing the layers together.

Well, i think that SÃ¶lle racing has helped a bit as well....although not visible i think the head is out of spec so i will see if thereÂ´s a workshop open tomorrow and check the head out. If not ok i will take a mm off it....compression will be....high. (they took a bit on the cylinders when boring Â´em up...)

youngy · Post by **youngy** » Fri May 30, 2008 10:33 pm

told ya!

a mm? that's a lot! head probably just wants wiping on surface table.

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:05 pm

youngy wrote:told ya!

a mm? that's a lot! head probably just wants wiping on surface table.

Yeah, would be a tad much...it all depends upon whatÂ´s open tomorrow....
Otherwise i just use my glass table and 600 grit writing eights all morning....

youngy · Post by **youngy** » Fri May 30, 2008 11:11 pm

600? pretty sure I used 1200 (all we had in work) and it came up great. Only needed a wipe. then go round it with a feeler gauge. the spec is very tight.

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:31 am

youngy wrote:600? pretty sure I used 1200 (all we had in work) and it came up great. Only needed a wipe. then go round it with a feeler gauge. the spec is very tight.

Yeah, said so in the service manual 6 or 800 though so if you where happy with 12 iÂ´ll go with 800

Did a quick test (and vague test) on the glass yesterday....it seems to be bleeding straight....but iÂ´ll do it anyway.
Another under the belt ya know...

....4-600 it said in the manual actually....did you use dry paper??

youngy · Post by **youngy** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:16 am

yes dry for sure. could be i used 800...........but as long as it's not coarse it will be fine i guess.

could it be that your block hasn't been machined flat, if the head seems ok?

the head i had suffered a head gasket failure. bloke i bought it from was adamant about it. put it on the surface plate and there was only one very small area that i could get the feeler gauge under.....it looked fine on the glass. it was only about 1 thou out but that was enough.

Killerwhale · Post by **Killerwhale** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:39 am

I thought so, says to use wet paper in manual so iÂ´ll do that....just been out on a shopping spree..
Block was machined when rebored and as they do garantee work for suzuki sweden i doubt that they fekked that....but youÂ´ll never know right!

youngy wrote:yes dry for sure. could be i used 800...........but as long as it's not coarse it will be fine i guess.

could it be that your block hasn't been machined flat, if the head seems ok?

the head i had suffered a head gasket failure. bloke i bought it from was adamant about it. put it on the surface plate and there was only one very small area that i could get the feeler gauge under.....it looked fine on the glass. it was only about 1 thou out but that was enough.

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