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Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:50 pm
by Kayla
I was having a bit of a ferret about under the tank on the bike and saw the intake trumpety thing on the top of the airbox. That can't be good for power, or is it? Has anyone opened up the airbox on the 'dirty' side of the air filter to loosen things up a bit? I don't mind cutting stuff up :D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:44 pm
by TonyDevil
if you want to open it up a bit best bet is to fit K&N style pod filters
dont forget to factor in a dyno run&rejetting into the cost tho

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:15 pm
by trixynut
AFAIR there has been some discussion before about removing the snorkel or drilling holes but no one ever proved any power increase.

The TRX ain't known for having restricted breathing, and there's a lot of science behind airbox designs.

As the seagull sez, a K&N or similar panel filter to replace the original will let more air in, but not much point just doing that alone really.

Easiest BHP gain is cans.

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:59 pm
by honkdawillydahonk
trixynut wrote:AFAIR there has been some discussion before about removing the snorkel or drilling holes but no one ever proved any power increase.

The TRX ain't known for having restricted breathing, and there's a lot of science behind airbox designs....
Are you sure? My airbox ended up with no snorkel, holes all over the front as well as a lifted tank and foam removed....

Mind you the engine and carbs are far from standard....

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:13 pm
by trixynut
Mind you the engine and carbs are far from standard....
...think thats the thing: yep, big fat FCR carbs need more air, whether it's via mods like yours or no airbox/pod filters like mine, but for standard carbs, messing with the airbox don't do owt, even if you've got a set of cans on.

I could be talking rubbish though, as usual...! 8-[

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:55 am
by Kayla
The bike had open pipes on it when I bought it so no worries there.

I decided to have a go anyway, given that araldite and gaffa tape is cheap enough :wink: It certainly sounds faster, ha ha. I cut the trumpety bit away and cut some holes in the front of the box. I took it for a quick blast around our local test circuit and it didn't feel any worse. I'll leave it as it is, just for the sound more than anything else :D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:46 am
by idl1975
Kayla wrote:The bike had open pipes on it when I bought it so no worries there.

I decided to have a go anyway, given that araldite and gaffa tape is cheap enough :wink: It certainly sounds faster, ha ha. I cut the trumpety bit away and cut some holes in the front of the box. I took it for a quick blast around our local test circuit and it didn't feel any worse. I'll leave it as it is, just for the sound more than anything else :D
AFAIK, people have tried this in the past and it really doesn't make much difference on the TRX, unless perhaps you have honkin' great FCRs on it. Depending where you cut the holes, be careful during wet cleaning!

I could be wrong, but I would suggest that if you don't need to rejet, it's probably not doing anything meaningful. Take the airbox cover off my (soon to be ex) Duke, for example, and you have to go way up on MJ or the bike will just stop when you open the throttle. But perhaps that's just singles?

Oh, and as far as K&N, I have one myself, but I do remember (I think it was) PB doing some tests on them years ago and finding that mostly what they did was bugger up the power curve. Perhaps someone else here remembers that article?

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:51 pm
by trixynut
I took it for a quick blast around our local test circuit and it didn't feel any worse
..that'll be a result then! :shock: :shock:

:D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:14 pm
by Kayla
trixynut wrote:
I took it for a quick blast around our local test circuit and it didn't feel any worse
..that'll be a result then! :shock: :shock:

:D
Yes, very clever, smart *rse. Obviously if it had been worse I'd have put stuff back to standard, or at least used lots of araldite and gaffa tape on it :D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:49 pm
by brockzila
I used to work for K&n in nz, there are a few interesting thing i lernt. honda airboxes, dont pull them out like most boy racers as they lose horse power when this is done.
But i dont see how this kind of thing would effect the trx, at the end of the day they are carbs.any thing you can do to give them more COLD air will help.

But i do imagine the induction noise would be magnificint.!!

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:49 pm
by devlin
If it sounds faster it must be! :D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:56 pm
by twolfe
CV carbs can be very sensitive to air flow changes. Things may be great on calm days, but if strong cross winds or the like are around, Kayla's TRX may start acting strangely.Be prepared for the tape and araldite, just in case. Flat slides however; love the extra cold air, so pod filters, stacks, extra holes in the airbox etc can be advantageous.
Terry

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:48 am
by bobtrx
As twolfe said when I had the standard carbs and filter I drilled as most others do and found that if I rode with a cross wind the bike would sometimes start to hunt like running out of gas , the remedy was to open the legs away from the tank , changing the air flow to the airbox , that made the bike run ok . I think I covered the holes in the end . Even tried to air ram into the air box with tubes from the front of the fairing . bike ran like poo so maybe still air is best . Don't let that stop you from playing kayla . The best thing about Rex's is the sounds they make and the fun it gives

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:19 pm
by steve speed
or stop smoking, drinking ,,eating,, o and using gas and electricity,,and buy some FCR,s :D :D

Re: Airbox trumpety bit, and the removal thereof

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:02 pm
by youngy
I have a drilled airbox taking up space in my garage. If anyone is interested PM me.