R1 40mm carbs

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R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:11 pm

Has anybody thought/tried fitting R1 40mm carbs to their engine?

I'm having difficulty getting a set of TDMRs and can't afford a new set.

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by ge0ff » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 am

I'd be curious to see how you get on with this.

I'd love to open the ole girl up a bit but the FCR's are a big chunk of cash.

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:48 am

What I don't get is that a lot of car boys use them on Ford/Volvo engines as sidedraught carbs but they're downdraught on the R1, like the TRX :?

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by ge0ff » Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:38 am

I'm a child of my generation unfortunately - stripping and cleaning or re jetting, no worries. But trying to do something like this, just making it up as I go along.....id probably not get very far.

Have a go and let know how it turns out lol

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by Con Rod » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:24 am

dandywarhol wrote:What I don't get is that a lot of car boys use them on Ford/Volvo engines as sidedraught carbs but they're downdraught on the R1, like the TRX :?

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by SDN » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:55 am

wonder what that does to power / fuel consumption

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by NWS870R » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:32 am

You could buy a full set of brand new YZF750 FCR41's for the same price as a pair for a TRX (£800ish) & split the cost between you? Just a thought? 8)
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:42 am

A good idea NWS - thought of that one before but is there not just one pumper feeding 4 carbs?

I've been down that road earlier with TDMR40s - someone had split a set of 4 and muggins here bought the pair without the pumper - luckily the German seller took them back and paid the post back..................
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by NWS870R » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:00 am

All parts/spares are readily available & it's still cheaper than £900 for a TRX specific kit? :thumbleft:
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:18 am

OK thanks - I'll look into it. Are the FCRs jst the one pumper and a fuel link to the other carbs?
Could you then fit a pumper pump/linkage etc. to the remaining pair if split up?

PS, answered my own question - the FCRs appear to have twin pumpers, one per pair as opposed to the Mikuni TDMR which appear to have only one pump feeding 4 carbs

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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by NWS870R » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:05 am

Kerching!!!! =D>
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:44 am

NWS870R wrote:Kerching!!!! =D>
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Ok, ok - it takes a bit of time til the penny drops at my age - life's still a big learning curve 8)
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by bagmaker » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:19 am

I purchased a set of 39fcrs from a kwaka 750 drag bike (USA ebay) and the set only had one pump.
That said, no big deal to get another pump happening from parts
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by Kayla » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:20 pm

I split a set of R1 carbs to fit on a TRX a few years ago for someone. There was only one pump on them and it was only the centre pair that were used as they were spaced right to fit the TRX from the start, meaning the two 'end' carbs were spare.

If you decide to split a bank of R1 carbs into two, splitting them down the centre into pairs, you'll need two new throttle rods as they're machined to suit the spacing of the carbs. Maybe Allens could supply them, I don't know. You'd also need new ally spacers and blanking plugs.

It's doable but I think it'd end up being an expensive PITA.
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Re: R1 40mm carbs

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:29 pm

Thanks for your input folks - all invaluable................
1996 TRX 850, blue, Ohlins 46HRCLS, Race Tech Gold Valves, 0.90 springs, Venom pipes, R6 brakes............
1974 Yamaha RD250A, Candy Blue
1998 Yamaha SZR660, blue of course
1967 Yamaha TD1C 250, Blue and white

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