Starting with a clean sheet....

burty · Post by **burty** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:54 am

Arguably we got the TRX that we all know and love, because Yamaha wanted a bike to put up against the Ducatis of the time. Maybe they saw an opportunity in the market place or whatever. The real reasons why Yamaha produced the TRX don't really matter now. All that does matter is we got the bike we have, and that it's a bit different as a consequence. An engine largely off the shelf from the Super Tenere, various other bits from other bikes at the time. A unique frame made specially to fit. Some of it works very well TBH, some we think nowadays we can do better perhaps.

So if you were designing a TRX now, and you had a completely free brief. What would you do? What changes would you make to produce a TRX of the future?

gregs656 · Post by **gregs656** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:42 am

keep the engine, more or less.

hype up the styling, do a naked version, give it decent suspension and brakes and put it up against the ER6.

ekoja · Post by **ekoja** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:56 am

Suspension, replace front with an R1 type suspension
Give a little more flexiblity with regard to handlebar height adjustment
A belt drive.
Better pillion accomadation.
A spin on /off oil filter.
Fuel Injection with a brief so that the bike gets a better range
Maybe change the oil system so that it is a wet sump, making the bike a little more user friendly (there seems to be continual confusion with the current dry sump system)
Thats about all, except maybe a clock in the instrument panel

philk · Post by **philk** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:50 pm

I actually really like the styling of the TRX so perhaps wouldnt change it too much.
But the main items i would include are.

Tubular alloy frame
1000cc (130bhp, 100ft/lb) parallel big bang style engine.
Ohlins suspension all round
forged wheels
Carbon bodywork
underseat exhaust system in titanium
trick clocks with shift lights etc.

Omegaman · Post by **Omegaman** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:33 pm

bmwF800 style single sided rear swing arm

quailty USD'S , lightweight wheels

Fuel gauge

madivi · Post by **madivi** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:56 pm

Philk you pretty hit the point, except for the big bang configuration and even worse the alloy frame.

What would happen to the filigree looks of the TRX!!!
Never.

Quan-Time · Post by **Quan-Time** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:54 am

fuel guage
4v head instead of 5v (helps economy + power)
900cc
6 gears
USD forks
YZF750 swingarm (hell, they still have the jig to make em in the factory, put it back into production damn it !)
revised pillion seat
revised rider seat
revised riding position (hands / feet placement)
New rear spring.
external oil filter (as someone else suggested)
Front fairing revision.. such as headlight / indicator revamp with maybe LED tail or somethin..
thats about it.. I wouldnt go dry sump personally, but each to their own.

philk · Post by **philk** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:07 am

madivi wrote:Philk you pretty hit the point, except for the big bang configuration and even worse the alloy frame.

What would happen to the filigree looks of the TRX!!!
Never.

It technically would look the same,
The alloy frame would still be a tubular trellis frame.
The engine still a parallel twin with the 270 degree firing pattern, just that it will be more powerfull.
It was the looks and the fact it was different, that attracted me to the TRX in the first place.

A bit like this!!

sherlock · Post by **sherlock** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:03 pm

Most of your whims can be granted with a Moto Morini Corsaro Veloce http://www.motomorini.com/lemoto.asp

tubular trellis frame/ L twin sound/ USD forks / quality suspension / 1200cc / 120hp / better seats / riding position / wheels / underseat exhaust / fuel injection / trick clocks / red on black or black on black or for the retro stylists, try a 9.5 red on silver with wire wheels.

And the exclusivity we desire, only 8000 made each year. Place your orders

TonyDevil · Post by **TonyDevil** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:28 pm

sherlock wrote:Most of your whims can be granted with a Moto Morini Corsaro Veloce http://www.motomorini.com/lemoto.asp

what a shame they dont do a faired model

dirty trix · Post by **dirty trix** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:46 pm

The realistic wish list:

900cc EFI (as per TDM) tuned for greater performance - 110 RWHP
270 degree crank
6 Speed gearbox (as per TDM)
Same trellis frame as per previous
R6 Suspension, brakes and rims (good enough for the job)
Underseat twin exhaust

Naked version or top faired version (as per SV650/SV650S)

See, it could be done as a parts bin bike still with no complaints from any of us.......

Post by **Max** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:58 pm

I had underseat exhaust back in 1988~89. It's hot.

I guess I still like the TRX as is. Okay, a few more CCs a six speed box (or a sorted, smooth 5 speed) and let the power climb to say 11K instead of hitting the wall at 8.5.

I learned to ride and race on primative suspension (by today's standards) so that part doesn't bother me too much. Okay, a cartridge fork and a bit more volume on the rear shock.

There isn't another bike out there that really interests me right now, sure there may be something else in the future but the TRX will always be my first love. I've had more smiles on this bike than any other.

madivi · Post by **madivi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:03 pm

@Philk

After seeing that picture I can't but fully agree.
I'd never immagine alloy trellis being so fine.
I rather had the old SV 650 in mind - far to thick.

Let's write Yamaha...

dirty trix · Post by **dirty trix** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:18 pm

I have to admit that moto morini looks damn fine.... 140hp 1200cc too...

Trixz · Post by **Trixz** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:24 pm

Can't add more to what already has been said, but...

- 1000cc, parallel twin, 270 crank, about 100 rwbhp *edit
- Fuel Injection with YCC-T and YCC-I
- 6-speed w/multi-plate slipper clutch
- Front end R6 or R1
- Final drive, Chain
- R1 swingarm
- Dual 310mm disc; radial-mount forged 6-piston calipers
- 120/70-ZR17
- 220mm disc; single-piston caliper
- 190/50-ZR17
- Dry weight 170 kg
- Tubular steel Trellis frame

The problem is, you do have to find a compromise between all the 'goodies' and that you can still ask a resonable price so that it's not tÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â³ exclusive!

(lower then a Moto Morini will do

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