2012 hill climb bike running
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Think it's going to take some sorting to get the fuelling straight!!
From what I have read the Air fuel ratio should only be 14.7:1 for light cruising and around 13.3:1 for hard acceleration as at 14.7:1 the combustion is too hot, although 14.7 is correct for complete combustion I didn't want to be melting anything.
			
			
									
									
						From what I have read the Air fuel ratio should only be 14.7:1 for light cruising and around 13.3:1 for hard acceleration as at 14.7:1 the combustion is too hot, although 14.7 is correct for complete combustion I didn't want to be melting anything.
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
You won't be seeing (or wanting) stoiciometric under full acceleration on a dyno! More around the 13 : 1 or richer as Mad suggests - 12.5 is more the norm for maximum performance in these conditions.
14.7 (lamda1) is what you'd expect under steady load and as weak as 15ish for cruise.
The dyno print out shows too lean throughout the range - I'd be looking at main jet size and dialing in the cams (slotting the sprocket holes) to get the timing spot on after skimming the head.
Remember that 14.7 : 1 is the stoiciometric ratio by mass - in reality (by volume) its nearer 30,000 : 1 - in other words 30,000 litres of air to 1 litre of petrol, hence the HOOOOGE roar in the induction box
			
			
									
									14.7 (lamda1) is what you'd expect under steady load and as weak as 15ish for cruise.
The dyno print out shows too lean throughout the range - I'd be looking at main jet size and dialing in the cams (slotting the sprocket holes) to get the timing spot on after skimming the head.
Remember that 14.7 : 1 is the stoiciometric ratio by mass - in reality (by volume) its nearer 30,000 : 1 - in other words 30,000 litres of air to 1 litre of petrol, hence the HOOOOGE roar in the induction box
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Main jets are on the shopping list and a spare set of cam wheels have been bought!!
Umm
  induction roar!! I have never heard roar like the TDM with the pod filter just under my helmet, it's great!!
			
			
									
									
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
I'm sure I'd roar if I'd a pod filter under my helmet............................. 
			
			
									
									1996 TRX 850, blue, Ohlins 46HRCLS, Race Tech Gold Valves, 0.90 springs, Venom pipes, R6 brakes............
1974 Yamaha RD250A, Candy Blue
1998 Yamaha SZR660, blue of course
1967 Yamaha TD1C 250, Blue and white
						1974 Yamaha RD250A, Candy Blue
1998 Yamaha SZR660, blue of course
1967 Yamaha TD1C 250, Blue and white
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Edit:
Hey Dandy, you across at the racing this weekend? I`ve got a rare weekend off, will be part of the `normal` spectators for a change.
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Just reading a report in Motorcycle Monthly Prescott Bike Festival page16 ( http://www.mpldigital.com/mortons-media ... e-monthly/ ) that Martin Robbins British hillclimb champion races a TRX, does anyone have any infomation, or if he's a forum member?
			
			
													
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
No idea, but a quick search turns up this photo....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N00/6911419806/
Looks like a pretty standard bike to me.
			
			
									
									
						http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N00/6911419806/
Looks like a pretty standard bike to me.
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
He`s got a very interesting FS1E too 
  
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
And here`s a stunning Norton J.A.P V twin:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
			
			
									
									http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
And here`s a stunning Norton J.A.P V twin:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48912169@N ... otostream/
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Thanks guys, that J.A.P. engined Norton sure looks good.
Prescott Biike Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQbTVHj ... re=related
and look out for the big bore twin, how do you get such big pistons into such a small barrel?
			
			
									
									Prescott Biike Festival
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQbTVHj ... re=related
and look out for the big bore twin, how do you get such big pistons into such a small barrel?
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Re: 2012 hill climb bike running
Good God that soundtrack did my head in! Some nice old tools there though. 
			
			
									
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