Max bhp

Moderators: trixynut, Mincehead, dicky, phuk72, Jak, Kevtrx849

Post Reply
coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:34 pm

what is the general concencus on the max bhp you can get out of a TRX?

I am debating what to do with my tdm900 engine. If I could get 110 - 120 bhp out of it I would seriously consider doing some work on it. My dads TRX was great fun for the session I took it out at croft at the weekend, even though it was a bit poorly.

I am thinking carillo rods, 940cc, flowed head, cams, balanced, rev limiter raised.

thoughts?

User avatar
Overlord Neil
TRX-Enthusiast
Posts: 285
Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:08 pm
Location: Sunny Emsworth

Re: Max bhp

Post by Overlord Neil » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Turbo? Mince put that link of the Greek turbo'd TDM's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPaPLD79JDk

There are a few of them out there. Makes it a different animal, but plenty of power. How reliable it will be remains to be seen, but then if you are pushing it to its limits I'm guessing you'd only be after a track machine?

You should have had a go on that Tuono I had, that was an animal. That might be a better place to start, that Rotax lump is a very good engine that will take a lot of abuse.
C90, TS50, H100, H100, CB250, GS500, Tiger 955i, TRX850, Tuono, ZZR600, CBR954RR

coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Re: Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:00 pm

not really interested in forced induction.

I want to retain the same character and DNA of the bike.

User avatar
dandywarhol
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1639
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:56 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: Max bhp

Post by dandywarhol » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:55 pm

A friend has just had his TTS tuned 900 rebuilt with 1mm oversize valves, Kent Yam9 cams, 960cc, 11.5 (I think) pistons, Carillo rods with stock injectors/ K + N and downpipes through Remus cans.

Engine was still a bit tight but putting 95 at the wheel. I rode it at the weekend and was v. impressed with the grunt and smoothness of it.

He's also got an ex trackday MT09 - the engine appears to be standard but remapped to suit an Arrow 3:1 - I was completely blown away by the performance from that motor, pulling from nothing to 13,000 and lifting it's nose in the first 3 gears - unbefugginlieveably quick :twisted:

Image
1996 TRX 850, blue, Ohlins 46HRCLS, Race Tech Gold Valves, 0.90 springs, Venom pipes, R6 brakes............
1974 Yamaha RD250A, Candy Blue
1998 Yamaha SZR660, blue of course
1967 Yamaha TD1C 250, Blue and white

User avatar
trixynut
Site Sponsor
Posts: 2572
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:48 pm
Location: Leicester, England

Re: Max bhp

Post by trixynut » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Do you mean max bhp from a TRX or from a TDM 900 engine?

TRX motor: about 100 - 105. After that it gets very expensive. Just a set of FCR's and a full exhaust system get you about 90 without getting into the engine.

TDM motor: no idea.

coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Re: Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:01 pm

this TRX motor of my dads has those mods plus cams, 878cc and flowed head. that made 88bhp at the wheel so thats decent.

I suppose I am talking about the 900 motor. there is not much information out there about tuning them. its not really the bike that people buy to upgrade the engine.

coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Re: Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:08 pm

dandywarhol wrote:A friend has just had his TTS tuned 900 rebuilt with 1mm oversize valves, Kent Yam9 cams, 960cc, 11.5 (I think) pistons, Carillo rods with stock injectors/ K + N and downpipes through Remus cans.

Engine was still a bit tight but putting 95 at the wheel. I rode it at the weekend and was v. impressed with the grunt and smoothness of it.

He's also got an ex trackday MT09 - the engine appears to be standard but remapped to suit an Arrow 3:1 - I was completely blown away by the performance from that motor, pulling from nothing to 13,000 and lifting it's nose in the first 3 gears - unbefugginlieveably quick :twisted:

Image
960cc Al?! really? I thought 940 was the biggest you could go. 100bhp at the back wheel would be just enough to hold onto the faster bikes down the straights.

here's the shakedown video of the TRX at Croft on Friday gone.
https://youtu.be/hX8DIxS58xM

User avatar
drix
Site Sponsor
Posts: 555
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:25 pm
Location: London/Surrey - UK & Valenciennes - FR

Re: Max bhp

Post by drix » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:06 pm

I was considering the option of bored out tdm900 barrels & Carillo rods... when I spoke to TTS, they need a rod as a sample for Carillo to base their work from and you have to buy them 4, not 2... can't remember the price but it was salty!! :lol:

User avatar
Mincehead
TRX-Enthusiast
Posts: 6345
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:40 pm
Location: West Sussex
Contact:

Re: Max bhp

Post by Mincehead » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:35 pm

I have two, NOT FOR SALE. :lol:
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES

User avatar
dandywarhol
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1639
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:56 pm
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: Max bhp

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:12 pm

drix wrote:I was considering the option of bored out tdm900 barrels & Carillo rods... when I spoke to TTS, they need a rod as a sample for Carillo to base their work from and you have to buy them 4, not 2... can't remember the price but it was salty!! :lol:
TTS have the spec for Carillo rods for the 900, 4 of them were commissioned in 2005
1996 TRX 850, blue, Ohlins 46HRCLS, Race Tech Gold Valves, 0.90 springs, Venom pipes, R6 brakes............
1974 Yamaha RD250A, Candy Blue
1998 Yamaha SZR660, blue of course
1967 Yamaha TD1C 250, Blue and white

coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Re: Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:21 am

the spec I am thinking of is this:

940cc (or 960cc if possible)
raised compression
1mm oversized valves if I can find some.
carillo rods
cams
balanced
F800 42mm throttle bodies
big bore exhaust and airbox mods (ie removed)

If I could get it to rev reliably to 9.5k I reckon it will make decent power.

User avatar
Ragnar
TRX-Enthusiast
Posts: 36
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 1:32 pm

Re: Max bhp

Post by Ragnar » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:41 pm

There is a Turbo TRX if that is an Option... :D
http://www.trx850.com/phpBB_forum/viewt ... f=5&t=4087

coxylaad
Site Sponsor
Posts: 1211
Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:30 am

Re: Max bhp

Post by coxylaad » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:46 am

forced induction is not an option for me.

it will more than likely go on track and if I put that on the floor it will be expensive!!

Post Reply