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StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digital

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:02 am
by Jordy
I have been told by removing standard cluster they bike will rev limit,how can i get around this as
im installing a vapour digital speedo gauge .thanks

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:44 pm
by alextrx850
Jordy wrote:I have been told by removing standard cluster they bike will rev limit,how can i get around this as
im installing a vapour digital speedo gauge .thanks
Hi Jordy..the only TRX,s that i have known to have a rev limiter is in the IMPORT model..usually with a black motor.
Pretty sure the limitation will be in the ignition module..[black box] and not in the speedo cluster you will be replacing.
As with modern bikes ,the speedo cluster matches with the ignition and cant be separated...not so with these.
The IMPORT model will have pumper carbs as well.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:46 pm
by Mincehead
Cluster, you talking of the gear cluster? I`m afraid that`s arse gravy! :wink: Now you CAN do a mod to the TPS via the CDI box and that will raise your rev limit, but honestly?
A TRX has gone through it`s powerband and out the other side by the time you reach the limiter.
If you use the search facilty and type in `TPS mod` you should find the thread. :wink:

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:20 pm
by Jordy
thanks. for info,

im not sure if my bike is import or not it has mikkuni carbs and ive had it well past 180 and it didnt speed cut.

The main issue i face is - i been told removing my speedo cluster etc and installing a digital speedo that the bike
would rev limit at 6000rpm, if this is true how could i get around it.

and its a 1995 trx red/white.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:49 pm
by trixynut
If its 1995 red/white with back motor and probably gold brembo calipers then its a Japanese import ..... also if you're saying you've been past 180, I presume the speedo is in KM's.

This is presuming you're in the UK? If not, where are you? Add your location to your signature.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:54 pm
by fung
It seems Jordy you in New Zealand going by your other threads.
cheers
fung
:rr:

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:03 pm
by Stu99
I had no problem changing to a digital speedo on mine(Aus model). I can't see it would be an issue but I am not good at electirickery :wink:

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:13 pm
by Jordy
@trixynut - yea exactly that kms/h and brembos , black motor.
location added , im new to forums, lol.

@ Stu99 - I Have no issue installing my vapour digital speedo , already done one on a old vfr700 streetfighter
project. How did you go about the rev limit after standard cluster removed.

Is what im saying an issue or is there no rev limit after factory cluster is removed.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:20 am
by cobbadiggabuddyblooo
180k's i gather that's in 3rd gear :wink:

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:31 pm
by Stu99
Jordy wrote:@trixynut - yea exactly that kms/h and brembos , black motor.
location added , im new to forums, lol.

@ Stu99 - I Have no issue installing my vapour digital speedo , already done one on a old vfr700 streetfighter
project. How did you go about the rev limit after standard cluster removed.

Is what im saying an issue or is there no rev limit after factory cluster is removed.
Sorry Jordy, I should have been clearer. What I meant was I had no rev limiter issue. The bike did not rev limit at 6000rpm after removing the standard clocks.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:02 pm
by trixynut
ok, iirc, the Japanese imports have a small metal tab in the tacho or speedo which restricts speed in top gear only.
Removing the whole cluster should not be a problem i would have thought.
Search the forum for 'import restrictor, limiter, metal tab etc'.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:51 am
by Jordy
Cool az thanx heaps for all the info aye , everyone , much apreciated.

I had seen a forum saying bout removing the tps plug from cdi and
earthing two pins on the cdi unit , in which the tps plugd into .
That is suppose to counter the limits .

What are your thoughts on removing the tps plug though.
Im thinkin not a good idea would prob have real horribe throttle
app and be lumpy through rev range.

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:05 am
by Mincehead
You do indeed find the bike somewhat less responsive, some don`t notice much difference but I know I did so chose to keep the TPS on my FCR`s.
As I said, unless the motor has been tuned a stock TRX is through it`s usable powerband by the time the rev limiter cuts in. :wink:

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:25 am
by Jordy
Yeh its not tuned , what im getting at is ,
im going to run a digital speedo right , no more standard speedo/rev/etc,
factory the bike red lines at 8000rpm ,
aparently by removing the factory cluster it will limit the bike to 6000rpm,
if this were true i need to sort that out cause the last 2000rpm is where it
will make most of its power.

Thats what i mean by rev limit i should of been more clear.

To be honest i cant see why that would happen ,its just what ive heard.

Anyone heard of this or encounted this issue.

Cheers Jordy

Re: StreetFighter/ removing standard cluster installing digi

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:34 am
by Homer
I've got an import TRX (black engine, brembo calipers) and I'm running an Australian model speedo, and I've noticed the rev limiter cuts in around 7k. Not really a problem for me as I never (well, almost never) rev it that high.
I believe theres a thingymajiggy available on the internet that plugs into your CDI that bypasses the rev limiter.

More info here

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